Performance Review: Jordan Super.Fly 2

Prose: Finch (@Sir_Stymie)

There have been a lot of changes in the lives of the TGRR duo (college graduation, engagements, and moving back home, so on and so forth) over the past few months. Due to these developments it has been pretty tough to crank out consistent reviews, but I am proud to announce that we are back on track.

Before I get into the review itself I wanted to touch on a few topics that have been on my mind. Here at TGRR, we are a grassroots operation. We are basketball players first and foremost and all of our reviews are based on our experiences with the product in the field. We appreciate the views and enjoy answering your questions and reading your feedback so I implore you to comment and review as much as possible.

On to the review, Jake provided you with one of our two-part sessions with the best that Jordan Brand has to offer in the XX8 SE. For my portion of our review package I have had the pleasure of reviewing the Jordan Super.Fly 2, a shoe that I have become rather fond of over the last few weeks.

The first Jordan Super.Fly model made its debut in June of 2012. In its original form, the shoe came equipped with durable Hyperfuse upper, Lunarlon cushioning and a carbon fiber plate in the midfoot, giving the shoe overall all structure and shape. While the original model was very good performance-wise (and worn by Russell Westbrook, Joe Johnson and Maya Moore in the NBA and WNBA, respectively) it lacked a signature athlete to truly give it a face.

Enter Blake Griffin. His involvement in Jordan Brand and the Super.Fly 2 (which was inspired by his play and debuted on the 2013 All-Star weekend) is a major reason for the success of the shoe. While Griffin gives the shoe some marketability, the Super.Fly 2 proved to be a great performer on-court – where it really matters.

(ed. note: Thanks to ones of our readers, Daren, who took pictures of the black Super.Fly 2 you saw throughout the article and also gave us some really detailed feedback on his experiences in the shoe. We always appreciate reader feedback.)

Fit: 9
Much the XX8 SE, the Super.Fly 2 utilizes a Dynamic Fit upper. Jake touched on this in his review, and I will go a bit more in depth. Jordan Brand explains Dynamic fit as “textile straps that wrap up from the midsole and integrate with the laces for a lightweight support that moves with the foot.” In layman’s terms, they extended the lace holes or eyelets and connect them to the midsole in the form of a strap. The widening of the straps near the midsole allows the more of the midfoot to be covered, thus giving you better lockdown.

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In my personal experience, I will agree that because of its simplicity, this gives you a better fit than something like Flywire. The Super.Fly 2 also has a sandwich mesh inner sleeve with an integrated tongue for a sock like fit (which is something that I am personally a fan of). The neoprene Achilles pad works cohesively with the padding around the ankle and helps with the lockdown while preventing heel slippage. The Pebax Flight Plate – which is not carbon fiber like on the XX8 SE – is kind of disappointing but Pebax has proven to be a durable and rugged material. It gives the shoe great structure and works well with the Zoom bag (which will be covered in its designated section.)

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For full disclosure, I went a full size down with most of my shoes that I play ball in to make sure that I get a more snug fit but I feel that even in my normal 13 I would have been ok.

Heel-Toe Transition: 8.5
To be honest this shoe feels a bit blocky due to the thickness of the midsole but with that said, thanks to the structure of the Flight Plate and midsole, it still makes for a very smooth forward rotation with some added flexibility. This allows for very little “slappiness” that you could get with shoes designed for forwards/big wings (i.e. Nike Foamposite Max.)

Daren also agreed with me, and thought the thick Zoom bag made the transition feel a little chunky initially.

Cushion: 9.5
To be honest, I really wanted to give this category a ten but I always want to leave space for improvement and for better product down the line. I know my logic can be a bit confusing but just know that it’s really good – and probably some of the best out there.

The Super.Fly 2 went away from the Lunarlon cushioning of its predecessor to a more responsive Zoom Air midsole. This was undoubtedly an upgrade. Lunarlon is very nice in running shoes and in shoes for quicker players (like the Kobe line) that are more about speed and lateral movement. Lunarlon wouldn’t quite work with this model, which requires impact protection from the heavier, explosive forces put on by bigger players.

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The Super.Fly 2 has a front loaded unit similar to the one used in the XX8 silhouette. The unit works in tandem with the Flight Plate and gives you the best possible responsiveness in the forefoot. The plate allows for the Zoom unit to compress and expand at exactly the right time. This also gives you a solid pivot point for post ups and spin moves.

Overall the midsole is spongy but also firm enough to support body weight and allowing for the tech to work effectively. This tech and the dense foam also adds weight to the shoe though, making them a bit heavy for my taste.

Daren, a guard, also chimed in and thought that the court feel was a little lacking because of the way the new Zoom bag has so much volume and hits your foot. As more of a wing/post hybrid, I loved the cushioning but if you’re a guard that likes a lot of court feel, this is definitely something you’ll want to pay attention to.

Traction: 9
It is a well-known fact, if you are an avid reader of this site, that we have favorites when it comes to certain aspects of performance shoes. Herringbone traction patterns are near the top, but Jordan Brand has found away to somewhat improve an already great innovation. I have dubbed it “burst” herringbone because of the look of course, but the design also has a function allowing for traction and grip at almost every angle that the foot can maneuver. It’s great for post ups and boxing out – once you plant your feet you’ll be hard pressed to get pushed off the spot because of your shoes slipping.

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Materials/Durability: 7.5
This is probably the lowest score I gave the shoe and in my eyes one of the few glaring weaknesses in the silhouette. First and foremost, the upper is some type of woven synthetic fuse material. This is fine, but the material was coated with rubber near the midsole and began to peel away. The upper started to fray a bit near the lace holes and near the bend points, which can’t be a good sign with less than two months of play in them. Unfortunately, something that seems to be more and more common for me, is midsole separation near the forefoot and I saw the early stages of this on the Super.Fly 2 as well.

Like I said in the beginning, this shoe has become very special to me. Not only does it fit my style of play, but the Super.Fly 2 has great cushioning and structure. The whole is sort of greater than the sum of its parts here. I also possibly had one of my best games of my life in these very sneakers in our last championship game, scoring 18 points (ed. note: and defending the opposing team’s best player.) Jake also did his thing as well in his UA Anatonix Spawn and we got the win – what more can you ask for?

Moreover this shoe fits my style of play and I think that if you are a wing or a post, or fan of the Jordan performance line (XX8 line, Melo M9 and M10, CP3.VII) this may be a great shoe for you.

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20 responses to “Performance Review: Jordan Super.Fly 2

  1. Thanks for another excellent review. I got some super.fly 2s last week and had to send them back for a smaller size. I wear size 12 in all my BB shoes and these 12s where slightly too big in length and width in the heel and midfoot. Other than that I was loving the feel and “bounce”. Traction was very good on a dusty court. They also made me hoist up a bunch of shots like Finch. I was wondering if you could venture a guess if we would see a super.fly 2 low like Jordan did last year? Thanks

    • Thanks for the support man. Glad you found some shoes that works for you. I have not heard anything about a low to version but an AE version is out now and looks fantastic.

  2. Hey, you have a really nice review right here. I have a question though, what’s the best way to clean these shoes? Do you recommend washing them with soap and water? Because I got the gray and blue pair and they look really dirty now since I always play outdoors

    • Finch and I both use Jason Markk kits, which are pretty much the best out there. For an outdoor shoe that’s gonna get beat up anyway, soap and water should do the trick. I always use a toothbrush or a toothpick to get rocks/pebbles out of the outsole too.

      • I see. Thanks for the info. I was little worried that using soap and water would cause some parts of the shoe to shrink, get deformed, or cause the midsole to get separated

    • Jon, Other than some slight peeling of the sole near the front of the shoe. Which is consistent with normal wear in my case at least. Other than that still great shoe very durable. Keep a look out for a review on the PO addition going very soon.

  3. I’m really finding it hard to decide if I should go with this or the 28. If you would choose one, which among the two will you get? Thanks

    • it really depends on your style of play. I do a lot of of post and mid range game and for a person who is more perimeter oriented I’d go with the 28’s

  4. I don’t know if you guys will ever reply to this. I am really hoping you would.

    Recently, I purchased the Rose 4.5s and have been hooping in the for about 2-3 weeks now. And as amazing as the court felt beneath my feet, my back is taking it’s toll with these shoes.

    I run the 1-2 position and I praying you could weigh in your opinions.
    I’ve ran for about a year with the KD 6’s and I’m happy with them until the airmax popped on me. I’ve also had the Crazy Light 2s prior to the KD’s and it gave my back and legs the same problem.

    My feet are semi-wide and low-arch’d so as amazing as Adidas’ low profile shoes are, I would need to stay away from them. Sadly.

    I was looking into these Super.fly 2 PO, Venomenon (Kobe’s price tag is too hefty for me), Hyperdunks. I’m not big on Signature lines.

    I really do hope you guys could reply.

    • Of course! I can speak for some of those shoes, and Finch can get back with you on the Super.Fly 2 PO (review should be posted as soon as I get pics). I don’t think the Venomenon or Hyperdunk would be right for you given your issues with low to the ground or overly firm cushioning. The Venomenon is pretty firm and didn’t have a ton of impact protection, and I have always found the Lunar foam in the Hyperdunks to bottom out quickly.

      I know you said you don’t like signature lines, but don’t overlook a shoe just because it’s a signature – it’s just a name on it and most guys get so many colorways that they’ll go on sale quick. If I were you, I’d look at KD7s. The Zoom heel and forefoot combo gives you a ton of responsiveness and the midsole is more supportive than most I’ve tested. There’s tendon-like TPU shank underneath (check the pics on the review) and that gives you plenty of support underneath. I’ve had both hips reconstructed by the time I was 22 so I too am concerned with support and harsh impacts (that’s why I didn’t love the Kobe IX or any Crazy Light model) and I loved the KD7.

      Other’s you should try on are Melo M10s because of the midfoot support and awesome cushioning setup (and I know they’ve been on Kicksdeals for cheap lately) and if you like lows, the CP3.VII. CP3’s have great traction and plush cushioning, plus great materials throughout. If you wanted to try Under Armour, try either of the Anatomix Spawn models. The TPU plate (again check the pics on the review) is light and really supportive, plus Micro G is gonna give you good impact protection and last forever. Hope this helps.

      • Damn. That was the quickest someone has ever replied.

        Thank you so much for the weigh in!!

        I will def check the KD7, CP3 .7, and the M10s!

        How about these Superfly 2s? Given my situation and style of play, do you think it would be a good shoe? I tried them on recently at a footlocker here in Toronto and I was shocked on how high they sat. I felt like I was wearing heels. But I’ve heard great opinions of the shoe!

        Also the XX8s have been on sale lately as well.

      • No problem – we like the interaction, especially as we’re kind of building a reader base.

        Based on the review, Finch loved the materials and cushioning. It is a bulkier midsole, and probably feels especially thick compared to the Rose 4.5, but its kind of the trade off you get for that support and cushioning.

        I played in the XX8 and had the forefoot Zoom pop on me within a few weeks and I know others had that issue. Fantastic shoe though. M10s are basically the XX8 with a higher quality upper and slightly higher cut, but same cushioning platform. I still think KD7 gives you the best all around option for what you’re looking for, but it just all depends on what fits your foot best.

  5. Damn. That was the quickest someone has ever replied.

    Thank you so much for the weigh in!!

    I will def check the KD7, CP3 .7, and the M10s!

    How about these Superfly 2s? Given my situation and style of play, do you think it would be a good shoe? I tried them on recently at a footlocker here in Toronto and I was shocked on how high they sat. I felt like I was wearing heels. But I’ve heard great opinions of the shoe!

    Also the XX8s have been on sale lately as well.

  6. Great stuff man, keep those reviews coming! It’s also great that the reviewers are 1-3, the position which most casual players fall into haha!

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